It doesn't really bother me much, it seems to have balanced sub spam.
9 Jun 2016, 22:23
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Submarines
Submarines, one of my favorite units. Im watching crimson tides right now, and also hunting @Ellio_98s submarines, off my coast 
So ever since this nerf a while back, it has been bothering me, not only cos the unit was over over Nerfed. I think the only thing I would have liked to have seen nerfed, is their AA. But what really happened, was everything else was nerfed, to my dismay.
So we have poll
Would you like to see Subs return to previous stats
Would you like to see Subs Keep Current Stats
Would you like to see Subs return to previous Stats but Nerf AA
Would you like to see Subs Keep Current Stats but Nerf AA
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9 Jun 2016, 22:27
Nerfing their AA defense would be ok, and making them a bit stronger against ships would be nice. Not necessary, but nice. For me. Because I like subs. And I build subs. All the time. Don't tell that to anyone.
9 Jun 2016, 22:29
I have learnt that first hand heheParamunac wrote:
Nerfing their AA defense would be ok, and making them a bit stronger against ships would be nice. Not necessary, but nice. For me. Because I like subs. And I build subs. All the time. Don't tell that to anyone.
Yes AA nerfed a bit, and increasing their Ships, which can be done returning to previous stats.
Off top of my head, they cut ship abilities by 25per cent
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9 Jun 2016, 22:30
I'd like to see the ol' subs go back to being the terror of the sea.
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9 Jun 2016, 22:33
I agree, but make naval bombers more effective, by lowering the subs AA..TankBuster wrote:
I'd like to see the ol' subs go back to being the terror of the sea.
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10 Jun 2016, 01:43 (edited)
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10 Jun 2016, 07:51
I somewhat agree, the my subs are just getting attacked for passing under units, and it gets very very frustrating.CzarHellios wrote:
Submarine spam? Now it is nothing but Destroyer spam now. The whole game can't exactly be balanced right naval wise, it is just Supremacy 1914 with a new UI slapped on it. Expecting more diverse gameplay would involve a complete reworking of the core of the game.I would prefer somewhat of a return to the previous statistics. But it honestly doesn't matter.
---A.A statistics are fine as they are.
I would far more prefer that the Sub-Convoy bug be fixed. As well as Sub passing through other units bug. (It affects other units, but Subs the most, and has been in this game for over a year now.) - Units passing over subs, the subs not engaging into combat but being attacked bug. Essentially, understand how one sided this game is. And it is very unlikely for the core model to be changed. But it would be nice that these year old plus bugs(And in some cases, since code was just copied over from SP1914, several year old bugs), would be fixed, so that this game would be a tad less broken. Case in point, fix the Sub bugs before adjusting the statistics.
Id rather see them fixed, before they fix the stats okay fair enough
But I still think, that AA sats outta be lowered, and them be unnerfed
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10 Jun 2016, 19:00
Speaking of bugs, I landed some planes at an AB that was near a port. This port had an enemy sub that I could see from a "reveal". When the planes landed they "attacked" the sub. They could do no damage to the sub and were unable to fly away, but the sub could damage them.
10 Jun 2016, 20:22
DxC wrote:
Speaking of bugs, I landed some planes at an AB that was near a port. This port had an enemy sub that I could see from a "reveal". When the planes landed they "attacked" the sub. They could do no damage to the sub and were unable to fly away, but the sub could damage them.
something similar to this, has happened to meDxC wrote:
Speaking of bugs, I landed some planes at an AB that was near a port. This port had an enemy sub that I could see from a "reveal". When the planes landed they "attacked" the sub. They could do no damage to the sub and were unable to fly away, but the sub could damage them.
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10 Jun 2016, 21:14
Who spams destroyers?CzarHellios wrote:
Submarine spam? Now it is nothing but Destroyer spam now. The whole game can't exactly be balanced right naval wise, it is just Supremacy 1914 with a new UI slapped on it. Expecting more diverse gameplay would involve a complete reworking of the core of the game.I would prefer somewhat of a return to the previous statistics. But it honestly doesn't matter.
---A.A statistics are fine as they are.
I would far more prefer that the Sub-Convoy bug be fixed. As well as Sub passing through other units bug. (It affects other units, but Subs the most, and has been in this game for over a year now.) - Units passing over subs, the subs not engaging into combat but being attacked bug. Essentially, understand how one sided this game is. And it is very unlikely for the core model to be changed. But it would be nice that these year old plus bugs(And in some cases, since code was just copied over from SP1914, several year old bugs), would be fixed, so that this game would be a tad less broken. Case in point, fix the Sub bugs before adjusting the statistics.
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12 Jun 2016, 16:42
The destroyers are effective units, perhaps any country having to fight a large fleet of submarines, use the spam of destroyers.Pablo22510 wrote:
Who spams destroyers?
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12 Jun 2016, 20:14
Yeah, but you need naval bombers to detect them.Caesar wrote:
The destroyers are effective units, perhaps any country having to fight a large fleet of submarines, use the spam of destroyers.Pablo22510 wrote:
Who spams destroyers?
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12 Jun 2016, 20:19
Just plant 'em at choke points and attack them to convoys, job done. I would think one would put CV with DD too to transport planes abroad.
12 Jun 2016, 20:36
Of course.Pablo22510 wrote:
Yeah, but you need naval bombers to detect them.
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12 Jun 2016, 21:01
Again, I think subs AA need to be nerfed..
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13 Jun 2016, 10:41
Nah, in WW2, any sub on the surface was a sitting duck for aircraft.oceanhawk wrote:
Again, I think subs AA need to be nerfed..
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13 Jun 2016, 11:23
The submarines were eliminated mainly by the naval bombers,in addition, allied submarines were ineffective against the german submarines.Pablo22510 wrote:
Nah, in WW2, any sub on the surface was a sitting duck for aircraft.
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13 Jun 2016, 11:55
He said that....Caesar wrote:
The submarines were eliminated mainly by the naval bombers,in addition, allied submarines were ineffective against the german submarines.Pablo22510 wrote:
Nah, in WW2, any sub on the surface was a sitting duck for aircraft.
13 Jun 2016, 13:52
I know, that is why I said, because I am in favour of the comment made by Pablo.Quasi-duck wrote:
He said that....
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13 Jun 2016, 14:26
So you do want AA nerfed, cos as it is, the aircraft take major hits.Pablo22510 wrote:
Nah, in WW2, any sub on the surface was a sitting duck for aircraft.oceanhawk wrote:
Again, I think subs AA need to be nerfed..
and isnt much of a sitting duck
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