as the title says my suggestion is the abillity to choose your doctrine yourself, obviously excluding this option from the historic gamemodes because its you know, historic, if you have a playstyle you heavily prefer it would be nice that you can assign a doctrine to go along with you playstyle with whatever doctrine goes with it to whatever country you want (again excluding historical gamemodes for obvious reasons) because it can suck when your preferred tactic is lightning blitz attacks so your enemy doesnt have as much time to react and then you're forced to play allied doctrine or something which are you know, slower ruining the effectiveness of what you're trying to do or visa versa preferring overwhelming brute force requiring axis doctrine and then being forced to use weaker pan asian units
in short: i think with the exception of the historic gamemodes while choosing your country it would be interesting if you could choose what doctrine you want to go along with it
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8 Mar 2023, 09:42
K.Rokossovski wrote:
I completely agree with this, it is quite boring that you can only play Pan-Asian in, erm, Asia. It would add a lot of variety on the same-old maps we always play because no new maps have been introduced for ages.
The argument that everyone would pick Axis is just ridiculous, it isn't any stronger than the others and for me personally, I like it least. If you have success with it, good for you, but don't talk like that's a golden rule or something like that.
I second this. On maps such as Homefront, there are no pan-asian doctrine options.
On a personal note, IMO, not sure what this "Axis being the best" is all about... I think Pan Asian is by far the strongest doctrine, because it's unbeatable 1 on 1 if you use it right
But as Rokossovski says, only being able to use Pan Asian in Asia... gets kinda boring.
8 Mar 2023, 13:09
Pan-Asian in Asia, boring? geez you guys are something, who knew Asia used Pan-Asian?
8 Mar 2023, 13:32
XD
Pan Asian
"Asia guys"
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12 Mar 2023, 17:03
Fox-Company wrote:
This would defeat the purpose of the game, everyone would choose Axis and the game would not really be fun anymore, because the game would become super un-balanced.
In most world at war games from as far as I see, no axis doctrine has ever won the game. Mostly itโs commiterns or pan asian conquering all of Asia, or allies defeating the americas
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12 Mar 2023, 17:07
K.Rokossovski wrote:
I completely agree with this, it is quite boring that you can only play Pan-Asian in, erm, Asia. It would add a lot of variety on the same-old maps we always play because no new maps have been introduced for ages.
The argument that everyone would pick Axis is just ridiculous, it isn't any stronger than the others and for me personally, I like it least. If you have success with it, good for you, but don't talk like that's a golden rule or something like that.
maybe add a pan Asian country in Caucasus or northern Canada?
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14 Mar 2023, 01:57
Destructo the Great wrote:
In most world at war games from as far as I see, no axis doctrine has ever won the game
That probably has more to do with the better players not picking it than it being particularly inferior. If you swapped the winners to axis they would probably still win.
14 Mar 2023, 05:59
I can't say I like the idea of picking your own doctrine. Not because of the risk of everyone picking the same one - as this thread makes fairly clear, people's preferences are quite varied - but because the doctrine of a given country is an important part of why you choose to play as it.
I also personally like the fact that each country uses the same doctrine each time. However, I haven't been playing for very long, so this predictability that I think of as just part of the game could well come across as tedious to long-time players.
I would like to see more countries using Pan-Asian.
Weighing in on the 'Axis is the good doctrine' discussion, as my strategy involves churning out as many units as I can afford and all but ignoring hitpoints until I've got them to the front line, it's only doctrine I actively avoid.
Her Ladyship Aragosta A.K.A. "The Backstab Person" Pan-Asian is a better doctrine than Axis when played correctly and you cannot change my mind. You just lost The Game. Join the Madness here: CoW Forum Players! Unite!
14 Mar 2023, 13:41
Okay, we can all agree my 'Axis is better' argument was made when i was high on water, but yes, i will have to agree with the above.
14 Mar 2023, 20:18 (edited)
Well for my own 2 cents, Iโd say it adds some diversity and makes more sense to keep it like it is. It makes more sense that a country would already have a set doctrine, but also forces players to learn how to play other doctrines, which better builds skill.
Edit: I would be fine with allowing doctrine change as a setting, but not a set rule that all games follow. Also Fox, welcome to the light side. Axis is not the best doctrine!
CarKing the 6th of the Abrahamic Caliphate
14 Mar 2023, 21:39
Carking the 6th wrote:
Well for my own 2 cents, Iโd say it adds some diversity and makes more sense to keep it like it is. It makes more sense that a country would already have a set doctrine, but also forces players to learn how to play other doctrines, which better builds skill.
Edit: I would be fine with allowing doctrine change as a setting, but not a set rule that all games follow. Also Fox, welcome to the light side. Axis is not the best doctrine!
I have always despised Axis, like i said, i think i drank too much water when i was arguing for it.
14 Mar 2023, 21:40 (edited)
Water is great.
Fox-Company wrote:
I often have the most trouble fighting Axis players, even lost one or twice against them, which almost never happens at all, but possibly i am over-exaggerating, if given the choice of any Doctrine, i would always choose Allied.
You say that as we have a horrible fight with an allied playerโฆ
CarKing the 6th of the Abrahamic Caliphate
14 Mar 2023, 21:59
Carking the 6th wrote:
Water is great.
Fox-Company wrote:
I often have the most trouble fighting Axis players, even lost one or twice against them, which almost never happens at all, but possibly i am over-exaggerating, if given the choice of any Doctrine, i would always choose Allied.
You say that as we have a horrible fight with an allied playerโฆ
False, i just have yet to transport my troops there, but that is not the topic of the thread.
14 Mar 2023, 22:16
Fox-Company wrote:
False, i just have yet to transport my troops there, but that is not the topic of the thread.
Alright Fox, you win this time!
CarKing the 6th of the Abrahamic Caliphate
27 Mar 2023, 22:46
mhh it can be a good idea, my fav is allies because honestly for my lifestyle this is the only doctrine for me, i totaly disagree axis is good but idk i don't think can always going well
27 Mar 2023, 22:53
turic95 wrote:
mhh it can be a good idea, my fav is allies because honestly for my lifestyle this is the only doctrine for me, i totaly disagree axis is good but idk i don't think can always going well
Yeah, i think Allied is best aswell, i disagree with my former self about the Axis thing.
28 Mar 2023, 16:18
but honestly i prefer without doctrine
28 Mar 2023, 17:38
turic95 wrote:
but honestly i prefer without doctrine
Makes sense why you like allied. The only real debuff is speed but itโs not much. Allied is definitely the most balanced doctrine.
