Greetings Generals,
Suggestions are important to the game, to polish the smallest details, to offer new ideas from different points of view, and to improve the game. That's why I make this appeal to the community. The amount of ideas about the countless Call of War themes, can surprise, let's not be intimidated and let's use our imagination and judgment to help make it known what it is we want to see improved in this game.
On Monday May 8th 2017, a poll will be open with all the suggestions, proposals and ideas from the different Call of War communities and then we will see the most voted for idea/ideas.
There is no limit to the amount of suggestions, I hope there will be many, there will be different rounds with the most voted ideas to improve the accuracy of our decision. The winning idea will be sent to Support Team and Bytro for its analysis and its possible introduction to the game.
To offer your idea, you must post it here, so it will be visible for the rest of the players. Since I hope there will be many suggestions and proposals, we will use an external website (Google Form) to make the poll, where you'll be able to follow the poll result. In the poll, you will be able to choose a maximum of 3 options so choose wisely!
When the poll is opened a new thread will come out where I will be posting each detail and update of the poll.
Let your imagination flow and may the best idea win!
nemuritor98
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another thought to the HQ idea above is to have a new unit - Radio Tower- which can offer a command radius greater than other units. Its cheap, but super easy to destroy, especially by paratroopers/commandos
oh, and commandos would also be immune....
Commando convoys should operate more like a submarine while on the water, OR, allow submarines to carry 1 commando unit that can rapidly disembark.
I am unaware of any submarine, WW2 era or modern, that is capable of transporting a battalion of 875 commandos. Even assuming that each in-game submarine unit represents a squadron of four individual submarines, those numbers don't work. Temporarily transporting a couple of squads or even a platoon is one thing, transporting an entire battalion via submarine is physically impossible.wolfeman77346 wrote:
Commando convoys should operate more like a submarine while on the water, OR, allow submarines to carry 1 commando unit that can rapidly disembark.
Which brings us back to another point that the developers either do not understand or have chosen to ignore: true commando units rarely fought as a battalion or regimental-size unit in the field. They were trained in small-unit stealth attacks for sabotage and reconnaissance. And they were not a substitute for regular heavy infantry units. Commandos were highly trained specialists, but they were light infantry who were trained to infiltrate in small units. A commando unit did not include its own integrated heavy weapons sections or integrated artillery, AA or armor. Putting them into action as another infantry unit, as we see being done in COW games, would only get a lot of expensive-to-train special warfare operators killed to no good purpose.
Without any WW2 references, aside from a movie about a small group going after a code box on a sub. I always imagined "commandos" the way described by Montana above.
With that siad, I always imagined them as anti-infrastructure. For this game, I think it would make more sense to have them not able to capture provinces, but instead able to attack buildings and destroy resources.
and.. thinking further, rather than a separate paratrooper unit, why not just allow commandos to walk onto an airfield and jump a certain range away from the airfield, based on the tech levels of the strategic bomber....
Given the parameters of the game, any ground-based unit, regardless of size or combat arms branch -- infantry, armor or artillery is capable of capturing a province. Whether any given single unit can hold that province, in the face of a rebellion or an attack by an enemy formation, is entirely different question. In most cases, no single in-game unit of any kind can prevent a rebellion if the provincial moral is at 25% or below. And in most cases, superior numbers of enemy units of the same type will defeat any single garrison unit.wolfeman77346 wrote:
For this game, I think it would make more sense to have them not able to capture provinces, but instead able to attack buildings and destroy resources.
In direct response to your point above, there is no particular reason why a medium tank brigade (675 men, ~120 armored vehicles) makes a better garrison unit to hold a province against a possible uprising than a commando battalion (875 men) of light infantry. In fact, dismounted infantry probably makes a better garrison than an armored unit, especially in urban areas, where armored vehicles are vulnerable to guerrilla tactics. COW game parameters already recognize this reality by reducing the offensive/defensive strength and hit points of all tank and armored car units when they are present in cities.
I want to put commandos on rockets that drop parachuting minisubs that fire batbomb torpedos at the enemy's "die glok". Maybe I'm just dreaming...
I will add that to the list with the genetically-engineered N-zi super dragons (Elite L7 Nazguls).Dixie wrote:
I want to put commandos on rockets that drop parachuting minisubs that fire batbomb torpedos at the enemy's "die glok".
And, hush, Dix. The newbs are not supposed to know abut die glocke until they achieve L50 player status, and the wunderwaffen secret tech tree is unlocked for them.
sorry... hush hush i will
I think your Rhetoric is a little unfair.Dixie wrote:
I want to put commandos on rockets that drop parachuting minisubs that fire batbomb torpedos at the enemy's "die glok". Maybe I'm just dreaming...
I was merely suggesting that a possible solution to peoples desires for a paratrooper unit would be to assign that capability to the already existing commando unit. Since they are a specialty, high skilled unit, it would make better sense. But whatevs..
didnt mean an offense. i wasnt commenting on anything you posted. i just like saying dumb stuff...
I am personally against Paratroopers just because of the complexity it would add in large games. But this idea might work if there was another mode created. I guess there could be 3 modes: Classic (current), Custom (more options for creator for in-depth games), and In-Depth (which could include more detailed games with things like Paratroopers and what not). About resource production, if you could just add resource producing provinces anywhere, the game would lose its reasoning for a market entirely, so this idea doesn't sound like it should work. But, in reference to buildings, I would be okay with adding more buildings to help with this production (with limitations). For example, you can only have 5 level 6 industrial complexes, 3 level 4 infrastructure, and as many level 4 naval bases as you want. It wouldn't really add too much, and if it wasn't added, I wouldn't mind, but yes it would be nice to have some boost. Then again, whoever takes advantage of this would distance themselves farther and farther from the market. Now trade routes, while this may be realistic, I would either not add it or put it wherever the Paratroopers thing goes (like In-Depth mode). Now rivers would probably just over-complicate things even more than anything else stated so far. Again, it could be implemented in an In-Depth mode, but I wouldn't count on that one at all.Strategic_Gamer wrote:
1. Paratroopers?2. Resource Production
3. More buildings!
4. Trade routes or something of the sort
5. Travel
Now about Defense, if units could boost their defensive stats, it should also hurt their offensive, but not vice versa. Unless you want to have speed games or something. Um about patrol, this idea seems to be difficult to implement in this game where it is now, and then inactive players would be a bigger pain to take down with this endless patrol (if I picked that up right). Now healing sounds like a good idea, but in order for you to heal units, you should be required to have a level 5 industrial complex in the province and a hospital (add to buildings) also along with any other requirements to produce the unit. The repair/heal time should be 1.5 times longer than normal construction would be (minus the already working parts). If healing is not added, the option to recycle units should be added so we can at least replace units with healthy ones along with a slight return in resources. The pause of training units has flaws, and maybe there should be some building requirements there as well (like level 5 industrial complex, level 3 infrastructure, and level 3 barracks). Now to core provinces, I think there should be a limit to these core provinces if you can add more. Maybe you could change some of your original core provinces into non-core provinces and in return you could change non-core provinces into core provinces. Just to keep players from abusing this, a queue should probably be made for these changes. Scouts remind me of Paratroopers, a lot, but if they are ever added I would hope it was in an In-Depth version. Transport planes would be a great idea if Paratroopers were added and in order to use paratroopers you would need to use one of your transport planes. Of course research requirements and high costs should be implemented for this as well just to avoid overuse (recommended for In-Depth). But I would remove the resource transporting part. Now to naval refueling, couldn't you just add like an anchor function to avoid being moved by the water? Now with submarines, I like the idea of submersion, and considering the lack of water wars, this sounds alright. But I think they kind of already added this, maybe not officially but the statistics of submarines kind of reflect this idea of submersion. Now to naval rockets, I like the idea, but the torpedo stats should somehow reflect from the ship it is being sent or the best case scenario if it is a fleet. And it would be researched similar to how typical rockets are.Strategic_Gamer wrote:
6. Defense7. Patrol
8. Healing
9. Training units
10. Core provinces
11. Scouts
12. Transport Planes
13. Naval Refueling
14. Subs
15. Naval Rockets
This is all my opinion, and I am sure others see things differently than I do.
Waiting patiently for the return of Nem...
If you hover your cursor key over the little padlock icon on his profile, you will see that his time is served on May 30.Dixie wrote:
Waiting patiently for the return of Nem...
Guys. Guys. Guys. You can already heal units. Yes, it is not very fast. But then again yes, you can relegate your damaged units to secondary tasks and replace them with healthy ones to avoid killing them off uselessly (especially if you're low on oil, you better try to heal your tanks rather than build new ones).Lukenick wrote:
Now healing sounds like a good idea, but in order for you to heal units, you should be required to have a level 5 industrial complex in the province and a hospital (add to buildings) also along with any other requirements to produce the unit. The repair/heal time should be 1.5 times longer than normal construction would be (minus the already working parts).
And no, a hospital building is not a good idea, as frankly, part of the game revolves around the fact that if you have damaged an enemy unit, it will help you think about his intentions and abilities to strike. If any unit can simply go to a hospital, there is a serious problem for any player out there.
Frankly, it's also a very strange idea, too. It must have been a hell of a battle if the entire unit gets sent to the hospital afterward.darksoul111 wrote:
And no, a hospital building is not a good idea . . .
Individual wounded soldiers get sent to a hospital; units do not.The way combat units "heal" in the real world is a very simple concept: replacement troops. (Yes, some wounded troops may recover in a few days, weeks or months enough to return to their unit; just as many, however, have to be sent somewhere for long-term rehabilitation or released from service altogether.) COW already takes this into account in the daily manpower upkeep requirements for all units (check the unit spec sheets -- it's there), and fifteen percent (15%) of the unit's then-current reduction in combat effectiveness is restored each day. So perhaps we should not be speaking in terms of a unit's "healing," but instead we should be speaking in terms of a unit receiving replacements over a period of days to restore its full combat effectiveness.
I'm going to hell for laughing at thisMontanaBB wrote:
It must have been a hell of a battle if the entire unit gets sent to the hospital afterward.
Vee haff vays to make you laff, and vee vill use dem!darksoul111 wrote:
I'm going to hell for laughing at this
only 2 more days till the return of the nem man. maybe his wit will help banish the sudden influx of trollsmanship 'round here
for further consideration, bumped up
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