Unit upgrade

ricsipop wrote:

Hi.

It is a very hard decision to upgrade a unit, because after that it will need a higher level factory to produce.

In my opinion the game should change: a player should be able to produce a unit in any level he researched. If he has lvl4 light tank researched, he should be able to build lvl1,lvl2,lvl3 and lvl4 LT up to him. In this case newly captured territories could be used faster for unit producing.

And it also makes sense. Once he has that technology why can't one use older technology for a faster production in case of?

imagine you are at day 20 , what will you do with level 1 unit ?

if you want lesser production times don't produce attacker units like medium tanks

you can produce high level infantries and anti tanks at 5-6 hours but medium tanks need 10 hours

No one would build the high level unit anymore, everyone would build the L1 and upgrade it.

K.Rokossovski wrote:

No one would build the high level unit anymore, everyone would build the L1 and upgrade it.

Also it'd be hilarious to watch, especially with Allied and Comintern players

_Pyth0n_ wrote:

so so so much cheaper and faster

Well you would save the costs for upgrading the buildings tho, and also the time in which they block the construction slot.

freezy wrote:

Well you would save the costs for upgrading the buildings tho

I do kind of like the idea of being able to produce below the current research level, but they would need to be non-upgradable, or at least have some additional upgrade penalty.

Older gear manufacturing lines probably got transformed / dismantled to make the new gear and the parts probably don't get manufactured either.

This is why you should keep 1-2 cheap units at level 1 for the whole game.

Gives you a way to build something quickly in an emergency, far away from your core.

Militia and AT guns are the typical answer. Sometimes AC, if you don't upgrade them.

z00mz00m wrote:

This is why you should keep 1-2 cheap units at level 1 for the whole game.

Gives you a way to build something quickly in an emergency, far away from your core.

Militia and AT guns are the typical answer. Sometimes AC, if you don't upgrade them.

No, but you can upgrade it quickly to the current tech level and THEN kill something.

I find low-level AT gun and militia useful throughout the game.

They are cheap and fast to build.

They are stealthy.

They can stop pillaging units, especially if you can build several and prepare an ambush.

For example, if an AC gets behind your lines, you can stop it without distracting your real army.

They can also be good pillagers/ambushers behind enemy lines.

It's an effective way to cause a distraction, force the enemy to divide his army.

I'm not saying level 1 units are "better" by the way, don't everyone get excited please

Just saying it's useful to have some level 1 units in your build options.

If all of your units are leveled up, then you can find yourself with no good options.

It's not easy to build level 3 infantry in a distant, recently conquered, 25 morale city.

In those cases, a level 1 militia may be an excellent option.

That could work if you dropped the upgrade capability if you build a L-1 it stays at L-1, if you build a L-4 it stays at L-4.

For me the point of being able to build lesser units would be for speed of construction.

I agree with making it as costly to build low then upgrade as it would be to build high...or even add a small penalty.

But the main reason to allow this is for those instances where you need some units FAST.

At least give us the option.

The solution exists. Leave some units at level 1. This requires no changes to the game engine. No confusing user interfaces for picking the unit level at build time. Either leave your militia or your infantry at level 1. You don't need to upgrade both.